Alright so help me out here...

Subject: Alright so help me out here... Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:20 am

people like the mods because it makes my server different...
...people complain about the mods because it changes the game a little here and there...
...people say the mods make the server lag...
...people say they dont like the server cause of the mods...
...people lag in other servers, not just mine...
...i keep the mods under control as to not make the server lag...
...people use the very mods they complain about to their advantages to play better...
...people continue playing in the server they dont stop complaining about...

now is it just me or does anyone else see all the contradictions in there?

also ill cut myself off here to say blaine and mario the lag you two had last night werent the mods, the server people were doing something, i know so cause it was fucking over the admin too, and its always them when that happens

so before i go and do a complete overhaul on my mods here, tell me, if you all think my server is so much different and better for w/e reason, why do you want me to be the same as every other server as well? sorry that i fail to understand a situation where logic prevails

maybe theres some confusions about some things we can clear up, maybe theres a few fixes we can make instead of getting rid of EVERYTHING, so on so forth, cause where alot of people hate the mods for w/e reason, there are also alot that like them

and Wenduo your not allowed to post here, your not allowed to bitch about it either, cause i already know what your gonna say SENSE YOU WONT SHUT UP!

Subject: Re: Alright so help me out here... Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:53 pm

honestly, the mods are fine with me. they offer up a different playing style. Many people dont like them because they hope to come in a server were they can practice their skills against other guys but since the gameplay is completely different from other servers, they dont really like it. But maybe a poll might be a more accurate thing to see what should be left or taken out if you are willing to do the changes. Again, i think they are fine because i just go into the abyss to have some fun. Very Happy

Subject: Re: Alright so help me out here... Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:10 pm

Seriously Its your server so you can do w.e you want to do with it. If people don't like the mods, its not that difficult to go to another server or make one. I personally like the mods just what Younes said "they offer up a different playing style." Everything seems fine with me if both villains and heroes team are balanced with these mods. I just understand that its natural for people to complain about everything because not everything is perfect. The constantly complain, but they don't do anything about it.

Subject: Re: Alright so help me out here... Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:08 pm

I have always liked abyss because of the mods. It adds a little something extra to the game and makes it more fun imo. Anyone who complains is just jealous. lol

Subject: Re: Alright so help me out here... Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:31 pm

I didn't play in the abyss last night. I complained last night cuz I remembered to make the complaint last night. the last time i played in the abyss was a few days ago.

I didn't lag before u put the mods there. After the mods, I start lagging. plus, I never said I dislike the mods themselves, I dislike the lag. But you know the cause of the lag better than I do so I wont argue.

and the only mod that i think is retarded is the roll mod, only cuz ppl whore it all the time. It doesn't take any stamina, so ppl use it like inf run to travel to the other side of the map after recovering from a tumble.... *cough* chanbojuud *cough*

the jetpack mod should be put back cuz I always find noobs coming in and sitting on high buildings/skyglitch and shooting. when multiple noobs do that, we end up with uneven sides cuz heroes are still playing jedi and the jangos aren't contributing, just taking up space.

other than that, idc. if there wasn't any lag, i wouldn't have complained.
as for lagging in other servers, i used to get the least amount of lag in ur server compared to others. Now, I get the most amount of lag in ur server compared to others.

eh, w.e. noobless servers are usually better anyways.

Subject: Re: Alright so help me out here... Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:26 pm

I as well think the mods are fine. Only time I ever lag is when you use WW for Abyss.
And idk if the map extension was just for today for WW, but that mod has to go.

Subject: Re: Alright so help me out here... Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:49 pm

it might have been when i had WW posing as abyss so i could have fun for a bit, or it might not be

too many mods can cause lag yes, but i dont think i have enough to cause a complete change of tide lag wise

as for the fetts, i already added the jet pack mod back, and shooting isnt supposed to be allowed anyways, you can boot them for being a shooter, though now i put the jet pack mod in and made all shooters move so slow it takes them an hour just to get out of the spawn alone, around 30 seconds if they spam jump, but even then theyre going nowhere fast, a far less laggy answer than the insta-death shooters

the roll where it does have downsides, very few of them, but i will admit theyre there, they also have upsides, sinister is actually the one who helped me some with it, im gonna see what all i can change about it and decide if i should get rid of that or not, though not everyone does what chanbo does, not alot do actually, so its not really a huge scale problem yet

and yes matt the extended map is only in WW, the reason i dont take it out in there is cause ill have to redo all my hacks again instead of just having them saved and waiting

Subject: Re: Alright so help me out here... Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:25 pm

Truthfully, i wasn't really complaining about the lag, i was just complaining about the amount of bullshit from the other team i was having. And i gotta agree with most of what blaine said. Sure i use the rolling to my advantage at times, but its gets annoying trying to chase an enemy that keeps on rolling away like a tumbleweed. But those are just my thoughts on the server and its mods.

Subject: Re: Alright so help me out here... Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:58 am

I dont know if my opinion counts much.
But, the mods not only bring a different feel to the game. But they can also kinda save it.
I mean the game would get incredible boring if you sat around for an hour getting killed by vaders combo over and over. But getting killed by a zap that takes out half your health is a little better.
If anyone is looking to warm up for a 1v1 or want to go back to the basics of the game, then go to a private server or i dont know single player. But the abyss hasnt really been for skill building (at least for the year ive played i dont know).

The pull=push mod is awsome.
It would be cool if there were some way aayla wasn't so dominant but that would be too cool lol.
The extended map was nice, lots of runners though.
Infinite sprint led to vaders halling ass around the map.
yoda mod may be a little to dominate but when your not villain its fun.
The choke damage mod i think is great.
zap damage increase is awesome.
The Drunk emporor mod i guess its called. Is hard to menuvior.
All of the shooter ones have been smart. The kill when they spawn one was the funnyest.
Oh and the floor mod lol the floor mod was epic.
And the roll mod is awesome when people dont abuse the crap out of it...
Ex. rolling from high up, pushing. If they block? Roll away and get higher... that sucks.

I couldnt sleep so i posted this...

Subject: Re: Alright so help me out here... Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:40 pm

Hm. I just don't like this game. EVERYTHING lags. And oddly enough the only servers that were unaffected by my temporary laglessness on sunday are The Void and Abyss. I don't know if it was indeed because of the server people, or what. But I know and am aware that my lag issue is not isolated, it's all over, and it's been bugging me for 6 weeks now. I can hardly play sometimes and it isn't worth dieing randomly because I teleport way back to some random spot and find myself getting killed by a maul.

I don't think it's my internet either because everything else I use on the internet works perfectly fine. I checked to see if the connection was disrupted somehow in the hardware but nothing was wrong with it. Switched wires... tried it. Didn't work.

But don't worry about me, I'm done with this game except for occasional visits and of course administrating when I am needed... until this lag is gone that is.

Subject: Re: Alright so help me out here... Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:15 pm

Lag on this game is inevitable, mods or not. Do mods increase the frequency of lag? It would seem yes for some people and no for others. For those who are lagging I would say your lag has more to do with your location and the server's location and also your internet speed. It's not always the server's fault so to speak, although that's not to say it doesn't play a part.

I agree with part of what Dex said. The Abyss is by no means a place to increase your skill level drastically or to practice. It is a unique server that offers a change of pace and variety you can't really find elsewhere. It has been that way for what? Like 2 years now? And still the most popular public server, so I see no reason to change how you operate. Plus, it's your server so you can do as you please.

People rolling away pissing you off? Fight fire with fire or just don't pursue them in the first place. Having a hard time maneuvering around with Sidious? Don't use him or keep practicing. Believe it or not there are very simple solutions to simple problems.

The mods are fine. People are always going to find something to complain about. It is only human nature. Just be sure to note the difference between those who whine and those who gripe. I would only ever recommend listening to those who can complain constructively, aka gripe.