who would win #2

Subject: who would win #2 Sun Jun 07, 2009 4:24 am

{JOG}

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{LSJ}

who would win #2 617875

*please note that {jog} has declined {lsj} for a match over 200 times

Subject: Re: who would win #2 Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:04 am

And they have real good reasons to do so.

Subject: Re: who would win #2 Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:30 am

Its, tough. have to admit LSJ has some very good players. JOG has Jeff which i have killed once by luck. Thats the only person i think is the best in JOG. The rest are close to him or in my level.

Subject: Re: who would win #2 Sun Jun 07, 2009 2:22 pm

LSJ no doubt. LSJ has Kratos, LAK, uhhh some other Very Happy

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Subject: Re: who would win #2 Sun Jun 07, 2009 2:27 pm

LSJ even though i dislike it.

Subject: Re: who would win #2 Sun Jun 07, 2009 4:04 pm

I think LSJ.

Subject: Re: who would win #2 Fri Jul 31, 2009 6:08 am

lsj still on top! lol!

Subject: Re: who would win #2 Sun Aug 09, 2009 1:11 pm

i voted jog because udn beat everyone exept for jog. but they didnt put up if they beat or got beaten by lsj. so i just guessed.

Subject: Re: who would win #2 Sun Aug 09, 2009 2:08 pm

Right now, it would be close could see it going either way. When JOG was stacked basically(not all the best ofcourse just alot) awhile ago I could see Jog winning. it also depends on if it were a 3v3, 4v4, 5v5, 6v6 etc.

I think either way it would be one of the best matches to watch.
And Drip, we never play LSJ ever i think we were basically dead on swbf2 when they came. That suks too, i wish all the best clans from the past would come back once more, would be cool

I even think with FOX in a 3v3 it could go down either way

Subject: Re: who would win #2 Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:28 pm

UDN didn't beat anyone... UDN's two best lost to GOR and back then GOR was regarded as one of the leading clans when it came to quantity, but one of the worst when it came to quality. They lost to me, lak and kratos... In fact they didn't even play that match out. Rocket Whore and Reborn started to respawn every time they were about to die and UDN Chaos even did it once, then they all left. They never beat SOR... They never beat SDJ... I don't even think they played Ninja, though I could be mistaken. I still to this day will never understand why there are people who think UDN was one of the greatest. I just don't get it. No disrespect cause they had several solid players but they didn't do any matches... with anybody.

Sorry to say but JOG is washed up. Played with Jeff recently last week multiple times and it seems like he has finally lost his touch. JOG's best active players are Viking and Rabbit... not even close to being good enough to compete with Kratos, Lak, me or Devil. Although I think Jeff, Isac, Leo and maybe Viking could contend... but would ultimately lose. I also think Jeff realizes this... which is why he refuses to battle anyone he knows could potentially win. I would just start up a brand new record for a brand new era... that way they don't gotta worry about getting a loss on their perfect record.

As of right now, LSJ would win. Pit JOG's best in their prime against LSJ's and it's no contest; LSJ would still win.

That's the cold hard truth. It's unfortunate people don't accept it.

Subject: Re: who would win #2 Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:47 pm

I think LSJ would win but I voted for JOG who would win #2 208815

Subject: Re: who would win #2 Sun Aug 09, 2009 6:51 pm

lol i knew this was gonna come up. Laughing

Lol Sin it was just an opinion bro. Personally I couldn't care less if UDN was regarded as one of the best or if they weren't, most of us dont care really about where we are ranked, just liked to play for fun cause its a video game thats pretty damn entertaining lol!

...now why are we up there usually? Maybe cuz we had some good players I guess, were not dicks, didn't have an ego, and didn't die...i guess those r factors.
And about the "cold hard truth", even tho udn and jog r allies i dont mind admiting the fact that its possible.

Brand new record for a new era? kinda sounds cool to me (i think that idead should be heard), but i guess alot of ppl would have a prob with that. Oh hey btw whats up psn lol? I think im going to get socom soon, usually i play kz2.

Subject: Re: who would win #2 Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:50 pm

how the hell did he not get offended by that? Shocked

Subject: Re: who would win #2 Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:06 pm

.:Fox:.{^Devil_Wing^ wrote:: how the hell did he not get offended by that?

well to state the obvious, its not like he tried to offend me, he didn't say it like an asshole so...

Guest

UDN is the greatest clan ive been in because of their friendly leaders and they constantly watched out for you and taught you. They were great friends and now im ashamed to talk to UDN or JOG anymore for the trouble i cuased. i supposed i realized it almost a couple weeks ago after i made a commitement for marriage and volunteering in the community. Now im the target of their crude talk and im a black mark in the game. Life can turn down on you that way sometimes and yes I do regret and apologize for sending those messages to IKY and Reborn, pretending to be a chick, flaming at JOG and lying to get back in, trash talking to the old SIN, and every bit of garbage to JOG and to here The Abyss. I was a depressed person and I never spoke to many people this being a place to vent any anger i felt or talk. now its good and that is why i must leave now since there is no place to go since ive been rejected by people who were good friends and it made me feel even worse so sorry UDN again and JOG i know it didnt come across but I really enjoyed playing and making friends in your clans I would go back if I could just good luck.

Subject: Re: who would win #2 Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:44 pm

This is definately a pandoras box here... Sininster don't get me wrong here, you are very very good, the same goes with Kratos, LAK, Devil, and ? (forgot who else was in LSJ, lol). You are a very, very skilled clan, which the SWBF2 community respects. However, you must look at the JOG assault record... It speaks for it self. We are perfect. We have never been defeated. Look at the players we have at JOG...

Jedi Council]
Grand Master Jeff
Grand Master Frantic
Jedi Master Deity
Jedi Master Mo
Jedi Master Leonardo
Jedi Master Off
Jedi Master Jmeeey

[Jedi Masters]
Jedi Master Rand Talor
Jedi Master Orion
Jedi Master Clean
Jedi Master Mastaisac
Jedi Master Arrgie
Jedi Master Bookofthel78
Jedi Master Red Venom
Jedi Master Barney

[Jedi Knights]
Jedi Knight Viking
Jedi Knight Jub Jub
Jedi Knight Darthryder
Jedi Knight Tom
Jedi Knight Night
Jedi Knight Darthsham
Jedi Knight Syn
Jedi Knight Dam U Died
Jedi Knight Mondo
Jedi Knight Jbizzle

We have so many people to field in for a match. We could put in Jeff, Myself, Leo, Frantic, Viking, Jub-Jub, Jmeey, Barney, Clean. If these people were put in a 6 man squad or 5 man squad we would be nigh on unstoppable...

Sinister, I played you a couple nights ago... You are a very skilled player. But we are on equal grounds in terms of skill I think... I believe that there are definately a lot of people in JOG that could edge out LSJ members in terms of skill. This would be a very close match, but I'm going to have to go with JOG.

Do note that this is my opinion, I did not mean to offend any LSJ membes with this post. I do like to go around the community with my thoughts on matters, I like to post, what can I say... lol

Subject: Re: who would win #2 Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:03 am

I think I was reading in JOG's history thread i found it interesting. Frantic stated that he and Clean beat superduper and FEAR in their own tournament then Zarex says he beat a couple of these guys which i have no doubt at both especially with frantic because hes a nice guy and i kinda sorta remember that coming up before a long time ago. It was like Scarz, *Legend*(Lak I think), Kratos, and sinister was kenshin? and devil wing was in JSA i hadnt really heard of him before then I heard mr. clean came back to LSJ and back to JOG so if those names are right then i remember them getting beat a lot whilst being in SDJ. they were real active with their locked server it was a privilege to get in. Im not really sure anymore with all the awesome players on different games. Its changed but I still think JOG is capable Ive seen a couple of the old guys since I started playing again they still amaze me.

Subject: Re: who would win #2 Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:24 am

yea but isac, i agree jog is undefeated, but JOG didnt play alot of great clans. jog beat sdj, but that was because jog used pullers and sdj did not...

idk i just feel jog needs to get active again, and prove they're as good as they all say they are.

Subject: Re: who would win #2 Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:31 am

In this current state, LSJ would win. Like Kenshin said, JOG is washed up and nowhere near where they used to be. But if I remember you saying like a week ago Sinister on AIM? "Kratos is all washed up. I played with him not that long ago. He sucked, even the most of noobs were beating him." So if that's what you truly say, it would be Lak doing all the work in that case.

And everybody has got a point with this JOG. You have ranted on about being the best for some time now and have yet to prove it in years. I don't have much faith in you beating LSJ in your current state because I hardly see any JOG members myself. (Though I only have been back for 3 days and not very active..) But you guys are still a great team that is hard to beat if they put all their teamwork into it. Jeff himself could take multiple members of LSJ just alone, but he's washed up from being inactive which leads him to be inferior at the current moment.

If this battle ever does happen, I do want too watch it.

Subject: Re: who would win #2 Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:12 pm

lol this thread is going to get very interesting What a Face

Subject: Re: who would win #2 Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:38 pm

i like how more people are registering to vote for jog ahaha

Subject: Re: who would win #2 Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:33 pm

{JOG}Mastaisac wrote:: This is definately a pandoras box here... Sininster don't get me wrong here, you are very very good, the same goes with Kratos, LAK, Devil, and ? (forgot who else was in LSJ, lol). You are a very, very skilled clan, which the SWBF2 community respects. However, you must look at the JOG assault record... It speaks for it self. We are perfect. We have never been defeated. Look at the players we have at JOG...

Jedi Council]
Grand Master Jeff
Grand Master Frantic
Jedi Master Deity
Jedi Master Mo
Jedi Master Leonardo
Jedi Master Off
Jedi Master Jmeeey

[Jedi Masters]
Jedi Master Rand Talor
Jedi Master Orion
Jedi Master Clean
Jedi Master Mastaisac
Jedi Master Arrgie
Jedi Master Bookofthel78
Jedi Master Red Venom
Jedi Master Barney

[Jedi Knights]
Jedi Knight Viking
Jedi Knight Jub Jub
Jedi Knight Darthryder
Jedi Knight Tom
Jedi Knight Night
Jedi Knight Darthsham
Jedi Knight Syn
Jedi Knight Dam U Died
Jedi Knight Mondo
Jedi Knight Jbizzle

We have so many people to field in for a match. We could put in Jeff, Myself, Leo, Frantic, Viking, Jub-Jub, Jmeey, Barney, Clean. If these people were put in a 6 man squad or 5 man squad we would be nigh on unstoppable...

Sinister, I played you a couple nights ago... You are a very skilled player. But we are on equal grounds in terms of skill I think... I believe that there are definately a lot of people in JOG that could edge out LSJ members in terms of skill. This would be a very close match, but I'm going to have to go with JOG.

Do note that this is my opinion, I did not mean to offend any LSJ membes with this post. I do like to go around the community with my thoughts on matters, I like to post, what can I say... lol

This is where you're wrong... Not to be cocky but you shouldn't of said anything cause I've been waiting for one of you JOG guys to say something like this. Here we go, pay close attention. Wink

First off, we're not equal in skill and I say that with overwhelming confidence. I've never played with you seriously... If you noticed in that server I was playing as Maul (one of my worst characters) and was running around aimlessly just rushing everyone. If you think what you did takes skill then I unfortunately have to disagree. You, like most other supposedly "good players", rely 90% on your block when you're not fighting a choker. That night you and I got into a tussle just outside of the octagon houses and your initial instinct was to look at the octagon and block.

I did the 1 strike while you were walking backwards hoping to get you to put your block down and push, which you did but I blocked... Then I did the double strike but you perfect blocked as I expected but you didn't push this time you just kept holding your block up looking at the octagon. I said ok, enough's enough and went behind you and you actually thought I was going to strike at you so you put your perfect block up and faced the octagon again, I pushed you in your back and taunt killed you and boy did it feel great.

During the remainder of the battle, I was unimpressed with you to say the least. Even when you had an advantage on me or whoever, you still ran off until you knew you weren't being pursued... Then you'd come out of no where and scrap. I am aware a lot of people use this tactic and I'm guilty of it too, however... This is all you did the whole map. Running away, whoring your block and scrapping people is not something that requires a lot of skill... That's not to say you aren't a good player, but from what I've seen from most of the "good JOG players" that is all you seem to know how to do when you face someone at your level or higher... I know everyone here agrees with me too, but I doubt most will admit it. You guys excel at manipulating the battlefield to your advantage. I would know, I do that too. Wink

If you think I was good then, play me in a match... something that actually matters. Then you'll see the real Sinister come out. geek

Look at your record, yes let's do so. Please, share JOG's record with us of who they've played and I assure you it is not as impressive as you claim it to be.

I want to point out something you said that completely contradicts all of your clan's actions.

isac wrote:: We have so many people to field in for a match. We could put in Jeff, Myself, Leo, Frantic, Viking, Jub-Jub, Jmeey, Barney, Clean. If these people were put in a 6 man squad or 5 man squad we would be nigh on unstoppable...

If you have so many people and are so confident that you would be unstoppable, why do you refuse to do matches? The truth is you're not unstoppable... You haven't been ever since, oh people actually started getting good lol.

Frantic is at best a decent anakin, everything else he sucks at. Jub Jub...? Didn't think he would be mentioned. Clean is washed up. Leo is not good unless he's on villains and he has oppurtunites to scrap fight. Viking is a solid player but you truly overrate him. Jmeey got his butt whooped by Devil the other night... it was a 2v1 and Jmeey was a part of the 2. Barney I have always respected because he actually earns most of his kills, but I don't think he is much of a threat any longer.

Your best bet to be able to even compete would be Jeff, Viking, yourself and Leo. Cause all of those guys excel at teamwork. I still firmly believe it wouldn't be enough to beat Me, Lak, Kratos and Devil. I really think your only chance to win is if you got Neji back, even then I doubt it would be enough...

I'm sorry but I can't take you serious until you provide some actual validity to your claims... Until then, keep dreaming I guess. lol!

And Neji, that was more like a month and a half ago and I didn't word it exactly like that. Kratos hadn't played jedi in months... literally. It was his first game back. Besides it was an open server, not like he was taking it super serious lmao.

Also, I'd like to note Isac... A lot of those JOG players you have listed I have played outnumbered against and still won. I will never forget when I 3v1d Jeff, Jub Jub and Jmeeey quite a while back. We fought in the houses (Jeff's territory) and they never killed me once... not once. It lasted the whole map. I didn't run away the whole time either... I actually think that is what prompted Jeff to write that strategy on me. They're not all you claim them to be, trust me.

Subject: Re: who would win #2 Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:48 pm

How bout trying to settle it on game {JOG} Instead of hiding behind what you did well over 2 years ago. Anyways I'm not a washup, I just go into public servers to play around, I didn't know I had to go all out to prove I can still play Jedi. Anyways all in all, Neji stop using one of my names, JOG Do a match with us if you want to prove your perfect, and I'll go practice Jedi, Give me 2 days!! 2 Days!!

Subject: Re: who would win #2 Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:20 pm

Jeff has always been a wise player and he chooses his words and actions very carefully. Im going to theorize this a bit that JOG simply does not care to prove themselves since they already have at one point and no longer wish to do so. They have moved on to other games and I know very well their power in the next generation. The thing is with say sports or school or video games the goal is to do your best and always always go out strong so forever on you will be remembered. I know I will always know what they did on this game and how great they were at it. Their immense teamwork, strong friendship, and t heir unique ability on the battlefield. It is the first and last and gave birth to some incredible jedi. Like Lance Armstrong or Micheal Jordan they went out as the best and both returned to suck it up scarring their rep forever because they got worse and moved on to bigger and better things in their life. JOG is smart for staying away from this for that reason regardless of what you say they are marked as the best in the history of this game and always will be for more than just how skilled they may have been but for many other traits that made them stand out. Even in games like these good sportsmanship should be maintained meaning we need to stay off their doorstep begging and leave them to make their own decisions.

Also I heard Jeff is on leave for a while. Several of the members listed above dont play anymore. Those that do, play it for the pure enjoyment of the game like we all should and quit critisizing eachother. The era of great clans is over so lets just have some fun while it lasts.

Subject: Re: who would win #2 Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:44 pm

{UDN}Garnier wrote:: Jeff has always been a wise player and he chooses his words and actions very carefully. Im going to theorize this a bit that JOG simply does not care to prove themselves since they already have at one point and no longer wish to do so. They have moved on to other games and I know very well their power in the next generation. The thing is with say sports or school or video games the goal is to do your best and always always go out strong so forever on you will be remembered. I know I will always know what they did on this game and how great they were at it. Their immense teamwork, strong friendship, and t heir unique ability on the battlefield. It is the first and last and gave birth to some incredible jedi. Like Lance Armstrong or Micheal Jordan they went out as the best and both returned to suck it up scarring their rep forever because they got worse and moved on to bigger and better things in their life. JOG is smart for staying away from this for that reason regardless of what you say they are marked as the best in the history of this game and always will be for more than just how skilled they may have been but for many other traits that made them stand out. Even in games like these good sportsmanship should be maintained meaning we need to stay off their doorstep begging and leave them to make their own decisions.

Also I heard Jeff is on leave for a while. Several of the members listed above dont play anymore. Those that do, play it for the pure enjoyment of the game like we all should and quit critisizing eachother. The era of great clans is over so lets just have some fun while it lasts.

Thank you.

Remember Sininster, my post was pure speculation... I did not wish to cause any arguments on this topic. I don't want this to turn into that, lol.