Who is better, Darth Maul or The Emperor

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Re: Who is better, Darth Maul or The Emperor

Post by {GOR}Master~Tyrlan on Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:48 pm

Lol well nothing more can be said other than the fact that it's based on a matter of opinion... good thing you didn't forget about Cipherz, i showed him a lot about the emperor. You can base your opinion on the facts i will state...

Now; to look at it based on the game, Darth maul's advantages(+) and disadvantages(-) are:

Advantages:

+ Has the combo that can knock basically everything down
+ The combo and backslash can smack people out of the air very well
+ That one of a kind backslash that can knock people over very well
+ Aerial knocks over almost every time when attacking a person on the ground
+ 1 Hit aerial is possible
+ Can stop mid-combo in order to block (speed advantage)
+ Can stop mid-combo in order to push, roll, jump, etc. (slow speed advantages that MAY be useful)
+ Longer saber, good for long reach and more accurate saberthrow
+ Effective dash attack that stuns well
+ Dash attack can be used as a lower quality infinite run
+ Dash attack is able to be used simultaneously and continuously
+ Can block immediately after a dash attack (speed advantage)
+ Can push, roll, jump etc. immediately after a dash attack (speed advantages)
+ Equipped with Force push
+ Fast post-aerial and post-dash attack recovery
+ Walk speed is maintained during combo
+ Dash speed maintained somewhat during dash attack

Disadvantages:

- Combo is long and dragged out and can screw you over (efficiency problem)
- Combo does low damage in comparison to most combos
- No recovery time after the end of the combo
- Slow recovery during mid-combo stop other than the block
- Average Post-backslash recovery (the average is slow)
- Aerial is normally ineffective on mid-air targets other than the normal stun
- VERY poor perfect block
- Poor block reliability

Ok, now for The Emperor:

Advantages:

+ Can jump, roll, choke and shock in mid-combo (first two swings) (speed advantage)
+ The choke in mid-combo can be used infinitely with energy Regen, almost infinite without
+ Can smack people out of the air with the combo's last swing
+ Can smack people out of the air with backslash
+ Can smack people out of the air with dash attack making them tumble
+ Can infinite choke with continuous choke switch
+ Can shock choke
+ Float ability (energy saver)
+ Very efficient follow through attack after choke-switch-float-choke technique with a backslash
+ Sith backslash, can be used as forward weapon to replace combo and tumble ground-bound enemies well
+ Dash attack is an effective tumbler
+ Very fast recovery time after dash attack for block use, choke, lightning, jump, roll, etc.
+ Higher than average jump height (Unique trait)
+ Can prevent tumbling by floating before landing; increase recovery time after landing normally as well
+ Exceptional perfect block
+ Exceptional block reliability
+ Aerial has far reach, guaranteed at least half life taken, goes through blocks
+ Decent Post-aerial recovery
+ Quick block recovery after backslash
+ Run speed maintained during dash attack (continuous and instantaneous)

Disadvantages:

- Slow walk and run speed
- Slow recovery at the end of combo
- All attacks take lower than average damage
- Most attacks aren't easy to tumble people with
- Dash attack can't hit yoda while he is on the ground (too short LOL)
- Can be easily countered and killed if wrong moves are made
- Walk speed slowed during combo

I may have missed a few things in these lists, but whatever. Judge based on this. Wink

But all in all, my opinion stays to where it varies on who plays as the character.
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Re: Who is better, Darth Maul or The Emperor

Post by Devil_Wing on Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:19 am

That pretty much covers it haha.

But with current mods on abyss, emperor would reck. haha

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Re: Who is better, Darth Maul or The Emperor

Post by Huey Freeman on Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:52 am

{GOR}Master~Tyrlan wrote:- VERY poor perfect block
- Poor block reliability
maybe for you lol

here are some solutions

{GOR}Master~Tyrlan wrote:- Combo is long and dragged out and can screw you over (efficiency problem)
- Combo does low damage in comparison to most combos
- No recovery time after the end of the combo
- Slow recovery during mid-combo stop other than the block
- Average Post-backslash recovery (the average is slow)
- Aerial is normally ineffective on mid-air targets other than the normal stun
- VERY poor perfect block
- Poor block reliability

- Only if you are getting scrapped, otherwise if you use it smartly and walk while doing it you won't have any problems
- Can't be helped
- There is recovery time, its just really hard to notice
- Can't be helped
- It is actually faster than anyone elses' backslash, where ass they all take 2 swings (1 forward 1 back) he just takes one big swing then recovers
- Don't try to aerial in mid-air lol
- Maybe poor to you but its just fine to me lol
- Don't block as much, he wasn't meant to block alot anyways

*FaMoUs*|Devil_Wing| wrote:But with current mods on abyss, emperor would reck. haha

you have no idea how wrong that is

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Re: Who is better, Darth Maul or The Emperor

Post by Guest on Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:19 am

yea devil the emperor is unbeatable in abyss

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Re: Who is better, Darth Maul or The Emperor

Post by Devil_Wing on Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:18 pm

? my emperor vs your maull mephiless letssss dooo ittt!

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Re: Who is better, Darth Maul or The Emperor

Post by Blaine on Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:03 pm

everyone wants to challenge ppl when they have to face the phrase "you're wrong". happened twice already in this post. first hero and me, now meph and devil.
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Re: Who is better, Darth Maul or The Emperor

Post by Huey Freeman on Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:34 pm

im not fighting anybody over over that one line lol

sorry devil but im not c*t

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Re: Who is better, Darth Maul or The Emperor

Post by Devil_Wing on Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:39 pm

I was kidding yeesssshhhh

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Re: Who is better, Darth Maul or The Emperor

Post by {GOR}Master~Tyrlan on Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:32 pm

Mephiles The Dark wrote:
{GOR}Master~Tyrlan wrote:- VERY poor perfect block
- Poor block reliability
maybe for you lol

here are some solutions

{GOR}Master~Tyrlan wrote:- Combo is long and dragged out and can screw you over (efficiency problem)
- Combo does low damage in comparison to most combos
- No recovery time after the end of the combo
- Slow recovery during mid-combo stop other than the block
- Average Post-backslash recovery (the average is slow)
- Aerial is normally ineffective on mid-air targets other than the normal stun
- VERY poor perfect block
- Poor block reliability

- Only if you are getting scrapped, otherwise if you use it smartly and walk while doing it you won't have any problems
- Can't be helped
- There is recovery time, its just really hard to notice
- Can't be helped
- It is actually faster than anyone elses' backslash, where ass they all take 2 swings (1 forward 1 back) he just takes one big swing then recovers
- Don't try to aerial in mid-air lol
- Maybe poor to you but its just fine to me lol
- Don't block as much, he wasn't meant to block alot anyways

*FaMoUs*|Devil_Wing| wrote:But with current mods on abyss, emperor would reck. haha

you have no idea how wrong that is


Lmao.

- You always get scrapped or people try to... unless it's a 1v1 lol.
- All comments "Can't be helped" are character specific disadvantages.
- The recovery time is significantly less than that of a Luke, obi/ani, Vader, grievous. It's just average along with other characters other than the old guys (yoda, emperor, dooku)
- The backslash occurs faster of course, it comes out quick. Doesn't mean they start being able to react any faster at the end of it than the end of any other person's backslash would allow. (Aayla has the fastest recovery for backslashes)
- Well that's basically what it implied... don't aerial people in the air LOL.
- YES it is poor when comparing it to the quality and flexibility of all characters' perfect blocking abilities except Dooku and Vader. Doesn't mean anyone has a problem using it, it is just worse off than the other characters.
- Lol well it is very useful when preforming the block immediately after the dash attack... will decide whether you live or die if you use that technique.(which is very useful for fighting multiple enemies BTW) Of course nobody needs to block a lot, but it drops on it's own quite often even when someone is trying to push you... let alone the perfect block, causing you to have to double tap the block button in order for it to stay up.

It is merely stating what maul has difficulty doing, not that it can't be adapted to, in order to compare character quality.
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Re: Who is better, Darth Maul or The Emperor

Post by Alex Ace on Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:33 pm

i say it depends on who you are more comfortable with.

maul 4 me.
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Re: Who is better, Darth Maul or The Emperor

Post by Guest on Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:43 am

the mods on the abyss have inspired me to play as dooku as some of you have seen.

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Re: Who is better, Darth Maul or The Emperor

Post by {GOR}Master~Tyrlan on Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:48 pm

The dooku in the abyss is awesome... he is far more useful as a pusher.
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Re: Who is better, Darth Maul or The Emperor

Post by Alex Ace on Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:26 pm

{GOR}Master~Tyrlan wrote:The dooku in the abyss is awesome... he is far more useful as a pusher.

but worse to get used to especially if you playing against a doku. you cant defend against him really well

if you slow run they push.
and if you block they choke

The best thing to do if your playing against a doku in abyss is to keep your distance
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Re: Who is better, Darth Maul or The Emperor

Post by Alex on Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:50 pm

Unless that hes not looking or is sum noob playing not knowing wtf to do....Correct?

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Re: Who is better, Darth Maul or The Emperor

Post by {MoW}befejc/drip on Mon Nov 23, 2009 2:15 am

{DSB}Mephiles The Dark wrote:Darth Maul
hands down

his combo beats all, more aggressive, over all harder character to play with making him more challenging therefore more fun when mastered
i dont know i mean i love maul he is good but with the new mod on void or abyss the emp is very fun to play with and i beast a lot with him so idk right now i have practiced more with maul so i say maul. you really should have made this a poll
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Re: Who is better, Darth Maul or The Emperor

Post by Devil_Wing on Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:25 pm

Most people with the mods use the push more then choke, so basically slow run, then when their about to push block(those of you that know that trick), Choke and push both share the same weakness, if someone is in the air neither one is effective, so keep that in mind. Good thing to do what alex said is to keep your distance and saber throw

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Re: Who is better, Darth Maul or The Emperor

Post by Huey Freeman on Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:33 pm

or take a guess of what theyre gonna do, my guessing got me 5 kills in a row on the same emperor the whole round (wont say who cause i dont want them to feel bad, right blaine?)

either way, idc if the emperor can instant kill just by looking at them, maul is still THE best imo lol

unless a certain someone decides to join the fight, which im sure wont happen anytime soon, maul will forever be THE best character in this game to me, no matter how much i or anyone else suck with him lol

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Re: Who is better, Darth Maul or The Emperor

Post by Blaine on Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:37 pm

i don't remember when that was but ok.
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Re: Who is better, Darth Maul or The Emperor

Post by (JOG) Viking on Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:14 pm

maul is the best guy to play as in 1v1 and in public rooms now. too many people only know how to kill a choker but when they vs a maul they just kill you by luck.

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Re: Who is better, Darth Maul or The Emperor

Post by {MoW}befejc/drip on Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:26 pm

i just love both.simple see.
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